EH_STEVE Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/microsoft-activision-blizzard-acquisition/ Quote Link to comment
Tyranogre Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 On one hand, monopolies are bad. But on the other hand, fuck Activision. alienboyva 1 Quote Link to comment
EH_STEVE Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Tyranogre said: On one hand, monopolies are bad. But on the other hand, fuck Activision. You don't want Miku Hatsune's games to be under Microsoft's roof? Quote Link to comment
DLurkster Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 So is this a FUCK KONAMI or just FUCK ACTIVISION situation? Like both their current circumstances are bad on different levels but imo Activision is worse by a little. Honestly, I don't see how Microsoft acquiring Activision will necessarily change their ways. Microsoft won't tell them what to do per se, they have their name present on anything they make and be exclusive on Xbox like Bethesda. They are not a morally corrupt company, yeah, some of their games are glitchy messes but that about it. Activision at its core of ethics and morals are corrupt as fuck. I can only hope that this acquire will set an example for Activision to act as business from Microsoft, as I said nothing will necessarily change with Activision within the company so I don't how I am suppose to feel about this turn of events. Quote Link to comment
Fuzzer1 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Wonder if this means that Activision games will no longer be on Sony or Ninte do platforms when this deal is closed? Quote Link to comment
Eliwood8 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Also worth pointing out that this is a ridiculously large sum and the most expensive video game developer acquisition by a ton. Hell, it's almost 10x as much as when Microsoft acquired Bethesda two years ago. Wild. Not looking forward to there being only like three massive game publishers controlling/financing every major developer. 5 hours ago, Fuzzer1 said: Wonder if this means that Activision games will no longer be on Sony or Ninte do platforms when this deal is closed? Possibly. Elder Scrolls VI and Starfield are both supposed to be PC/Xbox exclusive now that Microsoft bought Bethesda. Who knows though, they could just do timed exclusives or still play ball with multiplatform releases, as long as it still benefits them somehow. alienboyva 1 Quote Link to comment
alienboyva Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) So, how long before MS buys up all the major third-parties? We all know what happens when a system doesn't get third-party support. *Looks at Nintendo* I really hope this doesn't push Sony to start buying third-parties, like Square Enix and SEGA/Altus. I'd really hate to see Square Enix, SEGA/Altus, Bandai Namco, Capcom, Ubisoft, or even Konami (I know they aren't what they once were) get purchased by any of the big 3 (MS, Sony, Nintendo). As for EA...Fuck EA! I wouldn't really care if anyone bought them. Seriously though... This would be a bad thing for the industry if MS started this trend, like they did with paying for online. -------------------------------- 🤔 ...and Nintendo? THANK GOD!... Edited January 19, 2022 by alienboyva Quote Link to comment
DLurkster Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, alienboyva said: I really hope this doesn't push Sony to start buying third-parties, like Square Enix and SEGA/Altus. I'd really hate to see Square Enix, SEGA/Altus, Bandai Namco, Capcom, Ubisoft, or even Konami (I know they aren't what they once were) get purchased by any of the big 3 (MS, Sony, Nintendo). As for EA...Fuck EA! I wouldn't really care if anyone bought them. Seriously though... This would be a bad thing for the industry if MS started this trend, like they did with paying for online. I don't think you have to worry about that, in the pecking order of major income of the 3 gaming giants with consoles, Microsoft is first of course, then Sony and Nintendo last almost dead last. Sony can't compete with the deep pockets that Microsoft gives Xbox, they can to at least a quarter but they have to spend smart and can't make moves like Microsoft, just like before Xbox gamepass was trying to compete for sales with Nintendo and Sony from a games and console sold. Each of these guys are trying to play at their best strengths, Microsoft with their money, Nintendo with their classic IP's and Sony trying to make AAA game blockbuster the few but mighty IP their own. Everyone of these 3 are trying to find their way, what they believe is a success and profitable, yeah it can be scummy in how Xbox is doing it but this is what breeds competition (and hopefully won't turn into a monopoly in the gaming scape) Nintendo still seems they are trying to figure out what gaming by services with their NSO and like this acquisition, I wish Nintendo all the best and luck in traversing this avenue for success. So yeah, how everyone of these guys are trying to measure their success, I wish them all the best and hope it breeds more competition, meaning better gaming experience for their consumers. Quote Link to comment
Tyranogre Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The bigger issue here is that a lot of people within Activision who were actively lobbying for improved working conditions and anti-harassment policies are more than likely going to be let go in the midst of the transition to Microsoft, leaving all the people who were overworked and harassed with nobody left to stand up for them. Getting rid of Kotick is great, but it will only solve part of the problem. Quote Link to comment
DLurkster Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 That's unfortunate but it should go without saying that those were part of the problem, got to go. Unless Phil will those ppl chance ship up and change once Phil runs the show once the acquirement goes thru. As for those who were fighting the good cause, obviously those not in business, those ppl should stay but that is not always the case, the victims of course are gonna stay but I hope along with change in management, that they have better HR protocols for something like this to not happen again. Speaking of ppl losing jobs possibly, with Microsoft buying Activision for almost $70 billion dollars, there better be job security for those who are innocent in the harassment culture and if they decide that those protest and were the harassers can still if they follow new management standards and abide by them. This is obviously not perfect or real but those who want to change sure I would give them a chance but there's time between now and the acquisition, tho Xbox and Activision will operate separately, I don't exactly think this would be a good time not monitor the workplace environment to make a better judgment call who will stay and who will not. Quote Link to comment
Kezay Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I like how at this news everyone is like this is one of the most challenging days in Sony's history. But for Nintendo, it was Tuesday. And it was literally Tuesday when it happened! But in all seriousness I had to check around when the news first broke because I honestly could not believe it. Definitely going down in gaming history as one of the biggest moves around. Quote Link to comment
CHAINMAILLEKID Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On one hand, I feel like this has a chance of improving the outlook & quality on Activision games, particularly with consumer friendly stuff. Not that MS is a lot better, but as MS is invested in the industry as a whole, their strategy is less hostile. On the other, hand. Its kind of terrifying that something as big as Activision can just be up and bought. It already seems almost too big, too influential. And what we have now is... Growing up I always felt like gaming was my safe little island. Seeing it as just another face of a multimedia software conglomerate is discomforting. Quote Link to comment
Ridley Prime Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Whoever buys things to force exclusivity, someone loses. alienboyva 1 Quote Link to comment
Tyranogre Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Why do they have to buy out the entire studios? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy out the rights to the individual franchises? Quote Link to comment
alienboyva Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Ridley Prime said: Whoever buys things to force exclusivity, someone loses. I sort of called Sony buying a studio in response to MS's A/B acquisition. I really hope this doesn't start to become a trend. Quote Link to comment
Eliwood8 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 To be fair though, an acquisition like this doesn't happen in the span of two weeks. Presumably the process would've begun a while ago, but still, starting the year with all three of these acquisitions (including Take Two buying Zynga) is intense. alienboyva 1 Quote Link to comment
DLurkster Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Eliwood8 said: To be fair though, an acquisition like this doesn't happen in the span of two weeks. Presumably the process would've begun a while ago, but still, starting the year with all three of these acquisitions (including Take Two buying Zynga) is intense. Correct. I forget I where I heard this yesterday but it took Sony and Bungie 5-6 months to settle on deal. The timing of this happen right after Microsoft acquiring Activision seems reactionary when we don't know how long in the works Sony and Bungie were at this. Same goes for Microsoft and Activision. Also, I don't know if this was said here but Activison like Bungie were looking for buyers so sometimes these acquisitions are not as random as some ppl think. Quote Link to comment
Tyranogre Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Interesting point I saw on Twitter: With few exceptions, Nintendo doesn't actually own any of the studios that work on their IPs, because they don't need to. Intelligent Systems and HAL Lab are able to make plenty of money from Fire Emblem and Kirby to the point that they don't need to make games for other publishers. GameFreak is still allowed to make their own unaffiliated games like Little Town Hero or Tembo the Badass Elephant with twice the budget they're given to work on Pokemon with, and release them on Steam or the PSN. Of the few studios they DO own: Retro Studios was struggling under a CEO who was too busy producing softcore porn before Nintendo stepped in and kicked him out so they could work on Metroid Prime. Next Level Games allowed themselves to be bought out because they determined that the time was right to sell their shares. And Monolith has finally been allowed to make the grand-scale RPGs they've always wanted to make without executive meddling, in exchange for helping Nintendo out with resource-heavy games like Breath of the Wild. Quote Link to comment
DLurkster Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I thought the above knowledge of why Nintendo own the current studios they do was common knowledge. As for their 2nd party, they all have their reasons but the answer is Nintendo just have strong IPs, owning the studios would be sort of redundant at this point. It's like everyone is looking for a reaction with big video game companies who gonna own who next and there's usually good reason for them so when they do happen no matter where anyone opinions fall, there's always more to the story why so and so were bought outside of a monopoly. Quote Link to comment
Ridley Prime Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Yeah, Nintendo only buys companies if the company wants to be bought or if they're facing serious problems and Nintendo has a major connection to them, but even in that situation it doesn't always happen; AlphaDream, Rare. Some like Next Level Games wanted Nintendo to buy them and so they did, but I suspect Nintendo's perspective on not buying things before may have changed after they lost Rare. The Rare buyout also happened around the beginning of Iwata's leadership, and he may have not had the same reverence for Rare as his predecessor Yamauchi did. I do kinda blame Iwata for Nintendo not buying Rare when they had the chance though; Rare wanted to be bought by them too. Quote Link to comment
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