CHAINMAILLEKID Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 First is a help board. A place where people who need gameplay help, or tech help, or any sort of help can come in and ask gaming questions, and get quick no-nonsense answers. This is the lifeblood of a great number of forums out there. Its the the very premise behind Gamefaqs, and the only reason its even around today. I'd call it like, "Gaming help" or "Gaming Resources & Q/A" or something to that effect. Its not a discussion board, not chat, or anything like that, so there'd probably be stricter moderation than anywhere else on the site. Aside from just being a place where newer people can come and get the help they need, it also plays a HUGE role in search engine optimization, and getting website hits through people asking questions on Google. Again, Thats the whole reason gamefaqs exists, because you know nobody's out there recommending gamefaqs to their friends. The Second is a board for user made consumable content. Fan art. Fan Fiction. Fan Project/builds Anything like that. Two things this does that is important. First off, it generates content that can end up spreading out to other places, like reddit. Anytime we can generate content that can spread around its a really good thing. Don't think I really need to explain that. The second good thing is this is the sort of content that can keep lurkers. Lurking is one of the big gateways into joining a forum. In some ways, the people who are reading but not posting are almost the ones who you need to appeal to the most. I know we're trying to keep things consolidated with the discussion boards, But I think these are two things that perform independent enough roles to merit their own designated areas. Yellow, solitonmedic, Deku and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
Carl321 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Fan-creations has definitely been brought up before and I'd certainly be for it. The help section is an interesting idea and I don't have anything against it. It's certainly better than cluttering the discussion boards with "How does Metroid crawl" or "How do I make Blastoise mate with Beedrill" Quote Link to comment
Yellow Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Creativity board usually gets low amount of traffic but when this new forum came out I started thinking of making some stories and art and I'd like to post it on the forum when I have it done. Edited November 14, 2016 by Yellow Quote Link to comment
CHAINMAILLEKID Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Yellow said: Creativity board usually gets low amount of traffic but when this new forum came out I started thinking of making some stories and art and I'd like to post it on the forum when I have it done. Something else I'd like to see tried is to take like a monthly highlights from the creativity board, and have someone repost on reddits Nintendo board or somewhere. Something to the effect of this. I think that could be done in a way that would come off as constructive rather than shameless plugging. But IDK if we'd ever get enough content to pull it off. Edited November 14, 2016 by CHAINMAILLEKID Quote Link to comment
Mocha Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 the creativity board was always basically dead other than like two threads, and that content can just go on the appropriate board that already exists quarantining the stuff to a special board only exacerbates the issue of me not looking at it anyway gaming help i don't really see the point of considering google and gamefaqs already exist even then, they can just go on the appropriate gaming board or just make like a general game help thread i guess more bloat = not more better /negative nancy kuu, Edie Napier, ace and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
Edie Napier Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 With the low traffic the forum already has, segregating shit into different boards is already going to divide up that traffic. If the forum were larger where there were enough discussion around it to warrant it, sure. General gaming has posts on it from almost 2 weeks ago. Other than obsessive-compulsive categorizing I don't see a benefit to it. Quote Link to comment
CHAINMAILLEKID Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Lucas said: With the low traffic the forum already has, segregating shit into different boards is already going to divide up that traffic. If the forum were larger where there were enough discussion around it to warrant it, sure. General gaming has posts on it from almost 2 weeks ago. Other than obsessive-compulsive categorizing I don't see a benefit to it. I refer to my statement made in the OP. "I think these are two things that perform independent enough roles to merit their own designated areas." I can see waiting on a creativity board until there's a bit more activity. But half the reason to have a QA board is because its totally different type of content. If somebody asks a dumb question in General Nintendo, what are chances are people are just going to be flippant with them posting sarcastic unhelpful replies? Messing around like that is fine in a discussion board ( usually ), but a QA board is just there to be a place where people can reliably come to to get help. Its fine if its not an active board, so long as its not so inactive people aren't able to get the help they're asking for. Thats really the only lower limit. As far as it dividing up traffic, how much content do you expect it to be siphoning off? Its not exactly high value content for a discussion board to begin with. Edited November 14, 2016 by CHAINMAILLEKID Quote Link to comment
Spring Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 speaking personally, i would never use a QA board here, ever. all that information is already readily available and EASIER to obtain than having to create a thread here and hope our small community knows the answer. i can't think of a single time i would genuinely ask a question about gameplay and the like that i couldn't just find elsewhere, faster. i'm still pretty iffy on a creative board. though i've seen content on other boards that could definitely go into one, its still something that - if placed in another board - i will definitely not look at it as opposed to now, when i'll look at content occasionally. but if the creative types want a board that they'll ACTUALLY use, i'm pretty whatever about it i just don't expect it to garner any more attention than the threads do on their own now. Quote Link to comment
CHAINMAILLEKID Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, skycandy said: speaking personally, i would never use a QA board here, ever. all that information is already readily available and EASIER to obtain than having to create a thread here and hope our small community knows the answer. i can't think of a single time i would genuinely ask a question about gameplay and the like that i couldn't just find elsewhere, faster. What about networking questions, error codes, and help setting up port forwarding and QOS? As for creative content, well I guess it doesn't really need its own board. But I do think it is important content to have, and if there's a better way to promote it besides giving it a board, than thats good as well. I have some other ideas about that, I'll have to get into later. Edited November 14, 2016 by CHAINMAILLEKID Quote Link to comment
Spring Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, CHAINMAILLEKID said: What about networking questions, error codes, and help setting up port forwarding and QOS? yet again, why would i come here for help with anything like that when i either already have the knowledge or can find it faster somewhere else? if i have issues with my 3ds, why come here when the nintendo site exists? if i need help port forwarding for minecraft - do you think people haven't already had my problem 5000 times before? it takes me like, 5 seconds to google a problem i have. it would take that and longer to post a thread, and wait for an answer...when the answer is already out there. its just not efficient. it would take ANYONE here WAY less time to just google their problem than to wait for an answer. its a waste of everyone's time, even the people answering. if its a rare problem, then i can see maybe asking around here, but port forwarding isn't even a rare problem and if its rare, it doesn't need its own board. Gold 1 Quote Link to comment
CHAINMAILLEKID Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, skycandy said: yet again, why would i come here for help with anything like that when i either already have the knowledge or can find it faster somewhere else? if i have issues with my 3ds, why come here when the nintendo site exists? if i need help port forwarding for minecraft - do you think people haven't already had my problem 5000 times before? it takes me like, 5 seconds to google a problem i have. it would take that and longer to post a thread, and wait for an answer...when the answer is already out there. its just not efficient. it would take ANYONE here WAY less time to just google their problem than to wait for an answer. its a waste of everyone's time, even the people answering. if its a rare problem, then i can see maybe asking around here, but port forwarding isn't even a rare problem and if its rare, it doesn't need its own board. The point is you WANT these questions to be asked here, because by having them asked here its beneficial to the website. And the target demographic for such a board isn't 25 year old savy ex-Nsider users either. Quote Link to comment
Mocha Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 well who the hell would be posting there then Gold and ace 2 Quote Link to comment
Spring Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, CHAINMAILLEKID said: The point is you WANT these questions to be asked here, because by having them asked here its beneficial to the website. And the target demographic for such a board isn't 25 year old savy ex-Nsider users either. yeah, but that's not efficient for ME, the user, the ONE with the problem. the STAFF might want these questions to be asked here, for SEO and new members and etc, etc, etc, but as a regular user, i don't much care what staff wants when i have a question. i just want my question answered, as fast as possible. there's no benefit to me or anyone else asking a question waiting around here for a question to be answered. and maybe not, but that's the demographic you're WORKING with. i'm not saying its a bad idea, its just not an idea that's tailored to this community. Quote Link to comment
CHAINMAILLEKID Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Yuki said: i'm not saying its a bad idea, its just not an idea that's tailored to this community. "This community" as you refer to it is about 50 active users. You're going to have to start thinking beyond "This community" if you want this place to be anything more than trash. Quote Link to comment
Mocha Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I like most of this 'trash'. Gold, Edie Napier and ace 3 Quote Link to comment
Spring Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, CHAINMAILLEKID said: "This community" as you refer to it is about 50 active users. You're going to have to start thinking beyond "This community" if you want this place to be anything more than trash. i'm not staff. i'm not anyone. i'm a user, just like you, and making this place into anything isn't my obligation nor my priority right now. honestly, if YOU cared to make this community better- one that you're apart of too, i might add - maybe YOU should put some more thought into how well an idea will work with WHAT YOU HAVE rather than just assuming the rest of us will pick up the slack to make it work. again, it's not a bad idea. all i'm telling you is that, as a member of this community, i would not use it. i gave you my reasons why. if you care so much about making this place more than 'trash', then pitch to me why i should use it instead of insulting the forum. Quote Link to comment
CHAINMAILLEKID Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, Yuki said: I like most of this 'trash'. And thats the ONLY reason you're here. Because, Skycandy's argument is right. Not only about my idea, but about EVERYTHING to do with this community. Why would I come here to talk about anything when I could SOO much more easily and efficiently get what I want elsewhere? Quote Link to comment
Mocha Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 minute ago, CHAINMAILLEKID said: And thats the ONLY reason you're here. Because, Skycandy's argument is right. Not only about my idea, but about EVERYTHING to do with this community. Why would I come here to talk about anything when I could SOO much more easily and efficiently get what I want elsewhere? Serving the community that's here is the entire point of the forum. And that's okay. Gold and Edie Napier 2 Quote Link to comment
CHAINMAILLEKID Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Quote YOU should put some more thought into how well an idea will work with WHAT YOU HAVE What we have that could make this idea work is new users visiting the site, and some even joining, every single day. Thats a pretty darn good resource I think, we can do a lot with that. Quote Link to comment
Spring Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, CHAINMAILLEKID said: And thats the ONLY reason you're here. Because, Skycandy's argument is right. Not only about my idea, but about EVERYTHING to do with this community. Why would I come here to talk about anything when I could SOO much more easily and efficiently get what I want elsewhere? you sound a little salty that people are giving you pushback over something you clearly did not think out all the way. a lot of people come here every day to shoot the shit and talk about things that they COULD talk about somewhere else - but instead they chose here. why do you think that is? if i had to pin it down, i'd probably say for the discussion, which is what forums are based around. having a section of a forum that's distinctly NOT discussion, when i specifically COME here for discussion just...does not seem helpful, or fun, or efficient. Edie Napier 1 Quote Link to comment
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