ace Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Yellow said: No Joey, not you too. How dare he have morals and feelings. Quote Link to comment
EZLO21 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 In other news people who didn't vote won't get to complain and guess what? They will complain no matter who's in the Oval Office. I don't care who is in it, seeing as neither Hillary nor Trump one deserves it. If I was forced to vote, I would have voted for a 3rd party choice. Quote Link to comment
Stephen 776 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) And now realizing a climate skeptic is probably going to lead EPA. well fuck. Edited November 9, 2016 by Zora Quote Link to comment
ace Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Zora said: And now realizing a climate skeptic is probably going to lead EPA. well fuck. The EPA is done. Quote Link to comment
strawberrykeiki Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/us-markets.html Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Mocha Posted November 9, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yellow said: No Joey, not you too. You know, I was really tempted to go off on you. Then I remembered: You don't give a single fuck. About anyone but yourself. That goes for the rest of the peanut gallery, too. You would, and will, dismiss what I had to say. After all, it's not your problem, and the other side are just being sore losers, right? I haven't seen Joey come out of his persona very often. That he did here speaks to what he had to say being important. America has elected a man who ran on hatred. His campaign was xenophobic, racist, and sexist. Build the wall, lazy black guy, grab her by the pussy. I'm not overly worried about Trump himself, though. I'm more worried what will happen now that his ilk, and many people worse than him, control one of the most powerful governments in the world. Climate change? Just a Chinese myth to screw over America. That pesky first amendment? Stops me from stopping those meanies telling the truth about us. Nukes? Well, why shouldn't we use them if we have them? Moreover, his win normalizes the hatred he ran on. His supporters will be emboldened. After all, they won. There are already reports of it. It happened after Brexit, too. I don't expect you to understand. I don't expect you to even consider trying. You're posting on a Nintendo forum, decrying someone else for having feelings. Feelings for others and their safety. You're too far gone, darling, I hate to say. For the rest of you who maybe aren't, this is a very important thread. Read all of it. Most of all, I'm tired. Edited November 9, 2016 by Yuki Ret, kuu, Gibi and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment
Иecro Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, strawberrykeiki said: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/us-markets.html top kek Quote Link to comment
bel Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 20 minutes ago, strawberrykeiki said: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/us-markets.html porky wins either way 🎩 🐷 Quote Link to comment
Subies&Vape Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 15 hours ago, Chrom said: dude this is really how you start this with a bad fire emblem meme ace 1 Quote Link to comment
Erdrick Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, ace said: Tell me this is real. Quote Link to comment
ace Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Just now, Erdrick said: Tell me this is real. It is 100% real Quote Link to comment
Sheri Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Talked over it with a few people, did my own research, it's highly likely I'm gonna be moving to Cali soon. I'm gonna have to stay with my parents much longer than I wanted to, but for now I'm gonna build up as much money as I can. I'm praying that my internship with the company in gonna work with goes over well and see if, with in a year or so, I can be transferred to Cali. Optimally, in a few months. Cali was already on the list of places I wanted to move to, but never really considered as more than simply an option to consider down the line, but I need to be somewhere I feel safe and welcome. Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Ret Posted November 9, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Up until now, I actively avoided anyone and anything that had any kind of focus around yesterday's results. But at this point, I need to say this somewhere, to someone or anyone. I've spent the better part of the day trying to parse through all the hate. Hate towards Trump, hate towards Clinton, hate towards the system, hate towards each other. Today was the first time in a very, very long time where I've been rendered truly speechless. In public, you can already feel a slightly different tone in the atmosphere. In this thread, you can see it as well. A lot of uncertainty for people who voted pragmatically and lost, as well as those who voted against the system and won. Regardless of whether you were celebrating or mourning (that doesn't feel like the right word, but it's the only one I can think of to get the general message across), a lot of people still had this on their mind. "Now what?" No matter who won the election, this atmosphere was set in stone months ago. Undermining the political establishment vs. undermining the social status quo. Clinton won the popular vote by a small enough margin to be largely inconsequential regardless of which way you felt or voted. And amidst all the uncertainty, fingers are being pointed. Pointed at friends, pointed at family, but above all else, pointed at people. "Who did you vote for?" "Did you vote?" "What happened?" For some reason though, no one wanted to ask these questions until today, and today it's too late. As a modern society, we failed to acknowledge the gravity of what was being represented by either side. We had months, years even, to inform ourselves of what this election would be about. Instead, we spent it politically demonizing anything that didn't fall in line with our own views. Mocking people whose ideals differed from whichever ones we held. As a collective nation, tt would be fair to say that this election was one of the least-informed, ill-intentioned elections in U.S. history, and would even make an honorable mention somewhere in the modern history category. At the end of the day, we're still begging the question though: "Now what?" I've seen a lot of posts on social media that have been pretty humbling. Quotes here and there about how we need love now more than ever. And I agree, love is important, and will always be important regardless of the political climate. But where was this ideology before the election? Where was it in the primaries? Where was it in the interim? As for what we do now - in the long-term, I plan on letting anyone who may be worried, scared, anxious or otherwise out of place know that they matter to me, and that they matter to every other person in this country. For the ones who are satisfied, content, overjoyed or otherwise confident with their vote for Trump, I also plan on letting them know they matter to me, and they matter to every other person in this country. We got into this mess by stifling others to further personal agendas, spurning various people in the process. We got into this mess by fighting too much over our own self-interests. We got here by telling those we disagreed with they didn't matter to us. We got here by hate, blame and shame. We won't get out of it with more of the same. Regardless of who you voted for, let people around you know they matter. Whether you're white, black, hispanic, asian, tell people they matter. Whether they're natively-born or here on a travel visa, let them know they matter. Old, young, tell them you care. Whether they're gay, straight, bi, trans, let them know they matter. Whether you agree or disagree with them, tell them you care about them. We never had anything to lose by doing so, and we sure as hell have nothing to lose now. Edited November 9, 2016 by Ret Penance Fracture, subrosian, Zeldaru and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment
Young P Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I feel dead inside. Sheri 1 Quote Link to comment
"Casual Trash" Kirbys Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 45 minutes ago, Sheri said: Talked over it with a few people, did my own research, it's highly likely I'm gonna be moving to Cali soon. Come to So Cal. We got it the best Quote Link to comment
Cryptic Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 While the idea of promoting hope and love that extends to those on the other side is generally a noble one, I really don't know if I can. I think this has crossed a line. At this point, behaving in any way that does not imply embarrassment and shame for my country and a good chunk of other Americans would be insincere. Sheri 1 Quote Link to comment
bel Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I saw a good post on tumlr that's vaguely similar to ret's. it illustrates why I was always hesitant about shaming trump voters like the centrists and media have been doing non-stop for the last year, even though I hate the man. Quote the stupid thing about the left is that nobody even bothers to ask why white nationalism exists or why white people choose to embrace white nationalism and just hide behind the word privilege. you can’t explain it away with privilege politics. white people with some high school education from iowa or ohio who watched democratic and republican administrations gut vast regions of the country and leave their economy to rust and crumble aren’t white nationalists because they “love their privilege.” the states that voted trump used to matter. they were the industrial heartland of the country. now they are desolate, bombed-out flyover states with absolutely no job prospects, neglected infrastructure, and skyrocketing rates of drug addiction. if people living in these conditions can be called privileged, i think that’s enough of a case to abandon the concept of privilege entirely. it’s white people with the least amount of privilege and status who are attracted to and empowered by white nationalism. only one candidate even had a message for these people or acknowledged that their grievances are important. what was hillary clinton’s message to these people? that they were deplorables. the clinton campaign’s message to these people was that we don’t need you, neither in our campaign coalition or our vision of the future of the country. clinton told these people that they are the past. there was no understanding or sympathy. destroying white nationalism does not mean that we shouldn’t seek to understand why disempowered people embrace it. some of them are monsters, probably a lot of them, but I don't think most are. and that's probably unpopular with a lot of you, but I'd rather provide a good alternative on the left that gives a voice to their grievances and win them over rather than write them off entirely. Sir Grim Locksmith VIII and Иecro 2 Quote Link to comment
Doc Brown Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 minute ago, nornir said: I saw a good post on tumlr that's vaguely similar to ret's. it illustrates why I was always hesitant about shaming trump voters like the centrists and media have been doing non-stop for the last year, even though I hate the man. some of them are monsters, probably a lot of them, but I don't think most are. and that's probably unpopular with a lot of you, but I'd rather provide a good alternative on the left that gives a voice to their grievances and win them over rather than write them off entirely. You bring up a good point with that post. People like him pretty much feed off of it. They want to use the poor and disenfranchised to their advantage. Quote Link to comment
Ret Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, Cryptic said: While the idea of promoting hope and love that extends to those on the other side is generally a noble one, I really don't know if I can. I think this has crossed a line. At this point, behaving in any way that does not imply embarrassment and shame for my country and a good chunk of other Americans would be insincere. One can be ashamed of someone's actions or thoughts and still care about them as people. They're not mutually exclusive. Snootles 1 Quote Link to comment
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