DranSeasona Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Yeah Quebec and Ontario both have quite a lot more than that and with the lack of decent testing, the numbers are probably much higher... Not to mention I have been hearing that there’s a possibility that some of the negatives are false negatives, meaning even with the silly pre-criteria for getting tested still being in effect, the tests might not even be totally reliable. With all that said I don’t really think these numbers are giving us a very good sense of what is happening. So yeah... social distancing and overall staying at home is key, obviously. Quote Link to comment
purple_beard Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) I came across this meme tonight *************** This was kind of interesting as well. And keep in mind, I am no TC/FOX NEWS fan but I found this argument fascinating to watch/hear. https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-hits-fauci-not-an-economist-hes-suggesting-national-suicide-while-he-has-job-security/ Edited April 4, 2020 by purple_beard Quote Link to comment
April Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, purple_beard said: This was kind of interesting as well. And keep in mind, I am no TC/FOX NEWS fan but I found this argument fascinating to watch/hear. It's not fascinating, it's fucking stupid. Blatant propaganda to make people distrust health officials even more. Pretending to be reasonable, but going on and on about how "nobody saw it coming, these people make mistakes, too." Fucking slimy bullshit. This dude is literally just a mouthpiece for the rich sociopaths that have already come out and told the proles to straight up die for the economy.https://www.businessinsider.com/richard-kovacevich-former-wells-fargo-ceo-work-die-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-3?op=1 Even on this own dude's show: https://www.salon.com/2020/03/25/fox-news-brit-hume-entirely-reasonable-for-elderly-to-risk-getting-coronavirus-to-save-economy/ And he wants to accuse other people of damning everybody from the comfort of their position lmao. Stephen 776 1 Quote Link to comment
Stephen 776 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) The thing is, the economy is kind of fracked anyway. I'm living in Texas and we were among the last to impose a stay at home, but everything was slowing down weeks before hand. When a virus can reach a 10% mortality rate without curve flattening a la Italy, turns out lot of people aren't going to play a hypothetical Russian Roulette to buy a non-essential thing-a-majig. A lot of businesses closed doors not out of legal mandate, but just because they weren't getting business (some non-essentials, especially entertainment retailers, did get more business but that's more an exception than a rule). Like, I'm genuinely unsure what people like these CEOs and right-wing cucks are advocating. Have overpaid CEOs/investors lose a little bit less money on "investments" even if it means killing millions? Pretend there aren't mass lay-offs and force people back to at times non-existent jobs to pretend we don't need a social safety net like UBI or universal Healthcare? Or is the calculus literally if the GOP says they cured it and/or its China's fault loud enough people might ignore the dead bodies and elect them anyway? Yes, the economy is fracked, but suggesting we lapse social distancing for "the economy" and see who survives covid is, at best, an unwitting advancement of eugenics. The only reason to hypothetically be concerned about the economy is how much our survival, such as affording shelter and food or having access to Healthcare, is tied to our employers, but the takeaway should be to provide access to basic amenities directly. Or out another way, this crisis just puts into focus how much our old economic system is failing, rather than saving the old system, we should strive to do better. In the mean time, public health mode is the best way to proceed, because until we're past the worst of it, COVID is going to disrupt the old norm regardless; saving it presently is a fool's errand. Edited April 4, 2020 by Zora von Genbu Quote Link to comment
bel Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 If someone wanted to discuss that in good faith at a later date (we haven't even hit the peak yet) that would be alright but Fox News is just blatantly dishonest. Look at how their rhetoric has changed in the last few weeks. I'd rather listen to public health experts even if they've made some missteps than some disingenuous multi-millionaire TV host. Quote Link to comment
Triforcemaster3 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 The case count situation in the USA compared to 2 days ago: United States - 312,481 (+66,880) New York - 114,174 (+21,403) New Jersey - 34,124 (+8,574) Michigan - 14,225 (+3,434) California - 13,904 (+2,782) Louisiana - 12,496 (+3,337) Massachusetts - 11,736 (+2,770) Florida - 11,545 (+2,537) Pennsylvania - 10,507 (+2,819) Illinois - 10,360 (+2,663) Washington - 7,632 (+1,037) Texas - 6,872 (+1,619) Georgia - 6,383 (+939) Connecticut - 5,276 (+1,452) Colorado - 4,565 (+837) Indiana - 3,953 (+915) Ohio - 3,739 (+836) Tennessee - 3,322 (+497) Maryland - 3,172 (+841) Virginia - 2,637 (+929) North Carolina - 2,550 (+509) Missouri - 2,346 (+929) Arizona - 2,236 (+470) Wisconsin - 2,128 (+380) South Carolina - 1,917 (+359) Nevada - 1,742 (+258) Alabama - 1,633 Mississippi - 1,455 Utah - 1,436 Oklahoma - 1,161 Idaho - 1,078 Oregon - 999 Kentucky - 917 Minnesota - 865 Rhode Island - 806 Iowa - 787 Arkansas - 743 Kansas - 698 New Hampshire - 621 Delaware - 593 New Mexico - 589 Vermont - 461 Maine - 456 Hawaii - 351 Nebraska - 323 West Virginia - 282 Montana - 281 Quote Link to comment
DranSeasona Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 This is what happens when people base the economy on venture capitalism with a strong dose of social Darwinism. Mix in systemic prejudice and frankly I’m surprised the US has limped along for as long as it has. Yet your economy is held aloft as the gold standard for the world? I mean, other parts of the world may or may not be marginally better but absolutely this is the golden opportunity for your country and the rest of us to change this silly game being played. The game being letting wealthy sociopaths decide the fate of all humanity. I feel like this is really it: the last chance before all hell breaks loose on us all with things like global warming. It’s tragic and terrible that it is taking another pandemic to set the stage but I think this is the time to really start pushing back against these billionaire psychos... Quote Link to comment
alienboyva Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Thanks, Trump! You fucking dumb-ass! Triforcemaster3 and Link, the Hero of Dreams 1 1 Quote Link to comment
bel Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 we fly high no lie u know dis BALLIN Quote Link to comment
Link, the Hero of Dreams Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 hours ago, devilsKnife said: epic style Man, I have yet to hear anything on my situation. I even tried to apply twice for the UI site. This stinks. purple_beard 1 Quote Link to comment
purple_beard Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, devilsKnife said: epic style Lucky bastard. I've been on normal UI since the first week of March and I haven't gotten ANYTHING YET. Hell, I couldn't even sign in today to complete my job hunt survey from last week due to the site crashing. I can't get through on the phone, the phone bank wont even let you leave call back messages anymore. And, the email they have sends back call if you have issues. Quote Link to comment
Triforcemaster3 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Since we’re Nintendo people, we can appreciate https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/fu1ogc/the_gamecube_intro_but_its_an_unemployment_graph/ Fuzzer1 1 Quote Link to comment
Fuzzer1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Triforcemaster3 said: Since we’re Nintendo people, we can appreciate https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/fu1ogc/the_gamecube_intro_but_its_an_unemployment_graph/ Kinda funny actually Quote Link to comment
purple_beard Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 https://www.darkhorizons.com/police-play-purge-siren-in-louisiana/ Quote Link to comment
Link, the Hero of Dreams Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Now that I think about it, I heard something similar in my neighborhood... somewhere in CA. Or it was just the normal sirens. Quote Link to comment
EH_STEVE Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 "Let's break the law and mingle in groups greater than 4!" Quote Link to comment
EH_STEVE Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 Province just reported our first COVID19 death alienboyva 1 Quote Link to comment
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