EH_STEVE Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Basically development was not living up to the standards and expectations they wanted, so they're starting over from basically scratch... ...and partnering with Retro Studios again Edited January 25, 2019 by EH_STEVE Quote Link to comment
Fuzzer1 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Well that's not a bad way to start over by partnering with the company who made the previous three Metroid Prime titles. And kudos to Nintendo for keeping the gaming public informed. Quote Link to comment
EH_STEVE Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fuzzer1 said: And kudos to Nintendo for keeping the gaming public informed. Right? Class act. Quote Link to comment
solitonmedic Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Good on Nintendo for bringing back Retro Studios. Quote Link to comment
Tyranogre Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 This is wonderful news. They could’ve easily just stapled together what they already had, released it, and made a few million sales. But instead, they took a good hard look at it and said “You know what? This isn’t working. This isn’t what Metroid fans want. We can do better than this.” Quote Link to comment
Isotope Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Development must have been in a crazy kind of hell for Nintendo to be this transparent about this. This sucks real bad, but I can at least appreciate that Retro is working on it now, despite that most of the people that made Prime originally are no longer with Retro. Hopefully this means their rumored Star Fox game is almost or nearly done and isn’t cancelled. Edited January 25, 2019 by Isotope purple_beard 1 Quote Link to comment
Stephen 776 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Okay. On one hand I'm disappointed that MP4 is being delayed but also like.. Nintendo is doing what they got to do. I also appreciate that Nintendo is being open and transparent about this instead of being quiet and wondering if the game has been silently canceled. Besides, I have plenty of games to keep me busy. Quote Link to comment
Carl321 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I'm really impressed they were this transparent with us. As they say: a delayed game is good eventually, but a rushed game is bad forever. I'm willing to wait some extra time for a title that lives up to the hype. Could they please give us Metroid Prime Trilogy HD or something in the meantime? alienboyva and Doc Brown 2 Quote Link to comment
Juanblue85 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 It does hurt know it'll be a long while longer to see the game again but at least Nintendo did see it ahead of time. In the mean time I do hope to hear about some new games soon or hell do newcomers and old fans a favor and bring Metroid Prime Trilogy to Switch. Quote Link to comment
purple_beard Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Something must have gone really south for a PR video to come up about it. Which kind of raises the question of how bad was it? To start from ground zero is costly (I guess it would depend on how far they got though). And now the hype machine increases because now we are expecting something better. Quote Link to comment
EH_STEVE Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, purple_beard said: Something must have gone really south for a PR video to come up about it. Which kind of raises the question of how bad was it? To start from ground zero is costly (I guess it would depend on how far they got though). And now the hype machine increases because now we are expecting something better. Yeah I'm SUPER curious as to what exactly they were making? Was it a gameplay issue? Story? Style/visual? Or were they just like "ah fuck, we can't do this first-party anymore"? Quote Link to comment
Surge135 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) On the one hand, MP4 is delayed for quite a while, having to start development from the beginning On the other hand, MP4 is going back to Retro Studios At least they were transparent about it rather than leaving us wondering should MP4 not be on a release forecast down the road Edited January 25, 2019 by Surge135 Doc Brown 1 Quote Link to comment
alienboyva Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, purple_beard said: Something must have gone really south for a PR video to come up about it. Which kind of raises the question of how bad was it? To start from ground zero is costly (I guess it would depend on how far they got though). And now the hype machine increases because now we are expecting something better. Yeah, it must have, but remember they also did this when they had to delay BotW back when it was Zelda for Wii U. Seems like they really didn't want another Other M and especially a Fed. Force reaction. I could only imagine how pissed fans would be if that happened again. They should of just had Retro develop MP4 from the start. Edited January 25, 2019 by alienboyva Quote Link to comment
Elemental Hero Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, EH_STEVE said: Yeah I'm SUPER curious as to what exactly they were making? Was it a gameplay issue? Story? Style/visual? Or were they just like "ah fuck, we can't do this first-party anymore"? I really hope we get some kind of developer interview in the future which talks about what went wrong with the original Metroid Prime 4. alienboyva 1 Quote Link to comment
Eliwood8 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Pretty brave of them to admit that whatever they've worked on for the past year or more is just not working and they need to start from scratch with outside help. And good for them for announcing all of this. I wonder of this means we'll get a Nintendo Direct soon that was supposed to feature Metroid Prime 4 footage, but they've had to remove it and instead issued this notice preemptively. Quote Link to comment
Punchy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) NCL Exec: "Hey, let's do Metroid Prime 4, but without Retro. What could go wrong?" NCL still incompetent with the Metroid franchise. Edited January 25, 2019 by Punchy Quote Link to comment
EH_STEVE Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 Surge135 and Doc Brown 2 Quote Link to comment
avalonknight Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Yeah, very rarely you'll hear this kind of thing from any developer, and this open too. The next closest thing is maybe from Kickstarter updates, like Bloodstained apparently changing developers a year before the announcement that they did. Now the next question is going to be, when did Retro officially started development on their version of Prime 4? A year? Month? Last week? Still, it is really bizarre to actually hear this, and like the others questioned, how bad or off the mark did the first build of the game get that they had to scrap it? If there is going a special edition with a artbook (like the ones the Bravely or Xenoblade series got), I'd interested in that just to see what they have scrapped if they were to put them in there. ADDON: Someone in another place mentioned the scrapping of a more story-based Doom 4 for the current viscerally violent incarnation of Doom 2016. I kinda hope that's the case here. Edited January 25, 2019 by avalonknight Ridley Prime 1 Quote Link to comment
Ridley Prime Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) I was gonna bump the old Prime 4 thread here soon as I saw the news, but figures a new thread was made for it which is just as well. People like to forget that Retro in its current form isn’t the same team of people from the early 2000’s who did the Prime Trilogy. Suffice to say I’m mixed on this, but them doing the game now still gives me more confidence than not knowing for certain what team was gonna develop the game to begin with (Namco or whoever). Other than that, the restart in development was a tough pill to swallow and wake up to, especially when it’s been 2 years after the initial announcement, but the transparency is still appreciated and preferable to a cancellation, and being reminded that such quality control exists is reassuring. Obligatory Miyamoto quote aside, this tweet I saw kinda summed it up best for me. Edited January 25, 2019 by Ridley Prime Quote Link to comment
Juanblue85 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 https://www.resetera.com/threads/retro-studios-reportedly-pitched-a-demo-for-prime-4-themselves-which-nintendo-liked-mpt-port-for-switch-has-been-done-for-a-while-and-more.95732/ Quote Link to comment
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