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I was really hoping Waluigi would make it, but I can't believe Sora actually made it in. :o  Looks like he will be really fun to play as and his stage looks really cool as well. I love how we're getting all this sweet Kingdom Hearts music in Smash, though it sucks we don't get Simple and Clean and Sanctuary... Not even instrumental versions. T_T 💔

 

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Never could get into Kingdom Hearts but Sora looks fun to play in Smash Ultimate. Looks somewhat technical (and I'm not great at chaining together aerial combos) and the magic system looks cool.

 

Overall I'm happy with the DLC additions. I don't love to play as all of the characters, but like people have noted before Sakurai and the developers always do an amazing job of making each character feel unique, and I think that's especially true of all the DLC fighters.

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Sora finally made it to Smash. It feels weird for the Mickey keychain on the keyblade to be the only Disney reference. Thought that’s obvious Disney is to blame for the lack of Donald, Goofy, Mickey, and others. Another little nitpick, but it’s sorta disappointing that the characters stage cameos are just still images of KH characters on the stained glass in the stage transition. 
Sora does look fun and has lots of recovery options. Kinda funny that you’re forced to spam projectiles to get to the spell you want to use. He definitely appears combo friendly too. 
 I think if Sora would have been added anytime before KH 3 (along with throwing in at least a Donald and Goofy cameo), I would have enjoyed his addition a lot more. That and if he wasn’t leaked. Having Sora in was a good way to send off Super Smash Bros Ultimate I think.

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What I think I like the most is that if play as Sora in Stamina mode, the game ends like beating boss in the KH series, what nice touch.

3 hours ago, Tyranogre said:

How much do you wanna bet his Classic Mode will have a major plot point for the next Kingdom Hearts game?

This has Nomura written all over it there's any small reference and of course we won't know till main KH cause Nomura is cryptic like that.

2 hours ago, Tyranogre said:

Time for memes.

 

 

I'm not surprised but also surprised that Mickey keychain made it but I am grateful it is there nonethless.

 

Thank you Sakurai, you can rest easy now.

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On 6/22/2021 at 8:57 PM, Tyranogre said:

Updated tier list:

 

https://i.imgur.com/byKuQI0.jpeg

 

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*Kazuya has a son.

*It's basically canon that Drivers and Blades fuck, and given the ending of Xenoblade 2, a Rex/Pyra/Mytrha threesome is practically guaranteed (with or without Nia).

*Sonic was originally "Canonically" due to having kids in one of the comics, but then I remembered that said comic got erased from existence due to some legal fuckery regarding Ken Penders. In-game, Sonic does not show romantic interest at all.
*I had originally confused Terry's personality with Ryu's; "too obsessed with training to fuck". Upon further research, noted that Blue Mary is his girlfriend.

*Being unfamiliar with Minecraft, I originally put Steve under "Probably doesn't" just to be safe. However, I then did some research and discovered that all four skins are capable of breeding.

*On the subject of alternate skins, only the DQ3 and 4 Heroes are confirmed to have descendants. The other two can optionally get married.

*Alph has spent countless months traveling on a spaceship with only two other passengers for company. Who knows what poor Brittany has been subjected to...

*Why are Simon and Richter in separate tiers? Because Simon is the only one with a confirmed grandson, Juste. While Richter canonically has a love interest in Annette, Order of Ecclesia establishes that there is an entire village of Belmont descendants in the 1800s, only a few years after Symphony of the Night. Thus, any of the Wygol Villagers could potentially be the ancestor of Julius, while Richter is left unconfirmed.

*Wii Fit Trainer bumped up to "more than likely" due to all the number of results one can get from searching "yoga pants" on Pornhub.

*Villager bumped up to "optionally" via creative use of the pattern editors in New Horizons and certain emotes.

*Inklings bumped up to "more than likely" due to in-game lore mentioning popular date spots.

*Little Mac is in Stork Tier because Mario is the ref and Donkey Kong is the secret boss.

*Duck Hunt is under "probably doesn't" because most hunting dogs are neutered. Can't say anything about the duck, though.

 

 

 

Kingdom Hearts fans, I require your knowledge to complete the final tier list:

 

Does Sora fuck?

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  • purple_beard changed the title to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Discussion Thread: Sora has the Keys to the Smash Kingdom

I like Sora's characteristics, stage, and cool stuff.  I wonder how floaty he actualy is because of how Mewtwo gets on floatiness.

 

Cool on Doom Slayer getting in, I think I'll get that Mii Fighter costume.

 

Interesting on Pyra/Mytrha getting separate amiibos along with Steve and Alex.

 

I like the designs for all of them.

 

Odd no ETA on Min Min amiibo.

 

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Crazy this game is finally done.

 

Crazy on all those stats at the end of the video.

 

I think my only let down for this game is some of the missing stages from the series but otherwise this game has content for eons.

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3 hours ago, Tyranogre said:

 

Kingdom Hearts fans, I require your knowledge to complete the final tier list:

 

Does Sora fuck?

No, it's only in KH3 get to first base sort of by sharing a paopu fruit (that star shape fruit) in romantic embrace with Kairi, where they cross each other arms to bite into each other fruits.

 

And finally in the remind DLC, they finally hold hand together on screen multiple times. In the past there always so bullshit where there they are being pulled away or just missed each other hands. So that's really it for Sora romance over 6 games he was vitally in. He's a 15 year old Disney property, do think they want kids to know that Sora fucked?

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Can't say I'm mad with this choice.  Though I was hoping for something completely batty and off the walls, this was an ideal choice and something so simple and clean that I doubt many could really be upset with it.  He looks great, the effort put in is awesome and they did a great job with the introduction connecting it back to the game's reveal cinematic years ago.  I haven't put nearly as much time into this Smash as I have prior ones but now that Ultimate's expansion of new characters is coming to an end I won't think twice about giving it a go again and playing as Sora to try him.

 

Um... and... uh... SANCTUARY!!

 

Definitely a bittersweet end, though.  I hope Sakurai and his team can get some much needed rest after finalizing one of the best gaming packages of all time.  It's hard to imagine any effort now and in the future even touching the love and care that went into each and every element of this game.

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1 hour ago, Kezay said:

Can't say I'm mad with this choice.  Though I was hoping for something completely batty and off the walls, this was an ideal choice and something so simple and clean that I doubt many could really be upset with it.  He looks great, the effort put in is awesome and they did a great job with the introduction connecting it back to the game's reveal cinematic years ago.  I haven't put nearly as much time into this Smash as I have prior ones but now that Ultimate's expansion of new characters is coming to an end I won't think twice about giving it a go again and playing as Sora to try him.

 

Um... and... uh... SANCTUARY!!

 

Definitely a bittersweet end, though.  I hope Sakurai and his team can get some much needed rest after finalizing one of the best gaming packages of all time.  It's hard to imagine any effort now and in the future even touching the love and care that went into each and every element of this game.

 

I see what you did there... awesome;

 

Spoiler

 

 

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1 minute ago, Art_de_Cat said:

I'm dissapointed that the Disney side of KH is mostly removed, they could have had Donald n Goofy make an appearance, or some of his costumes be Disney ones from the games...or have Maleficient be in the background.....but I understand as well.....

Yeah I was expecting a Trinity Attack for the Final Smash.

 

I wonder if it's one of those things where Square has more rights over Sora, but not the Disney bits, and they had enough sway to let Nintendo use him only

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Disney is the sole owner of the Kingdom Hearts IP. Any characters that did not originate from Final Fantasy are considered Disney property. Square-Enix are just the developers of the series, like how Capcom developed the Ducktales NES game. If Disney wanted to, they could make a Kingdom Hearts game without Square's involvement, and there's nothing Square would be able to do about it, other than disallowing Disney from putting Cloud or Sephiroth into the game.

 

From a legal perspective, Sora is not a fourth Square-Enix rep; he's a first Disney rep.

 

Wasted slot, should've gone to Wreck-It Ralph.

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3 hours ago, EH_STEVE said:

Yeah I was expecting a Trinity Attack for the Final Smash.

 

I wonder if it's one of those things where Square has more rights over Sora, but not the Disney bits, and they had enough sway to let Nintendo use him only

 

16 minutes ago, Tyranogre said:

Disney is the sole owner of the Kingdom Hearts IP. Any characters that did not originate from Final Fantasy are considered Disney property. Square-Enix are just the developers of the series, like how Capcom developed the Ducktales NES game. If Disney wanted to, they could make a Kingdom Hearts game without Square's involvement, and there's nothing Square would be able to do about it, other than disallowing Disney from putting Cloud or Sephiroth into the game.

 

From a legal perspective, Sora is not a fourth Square-Enix rep; he's a first Disney rep.

 

Wasted slot, should've gone to Wreck-It Ralph.

Pretty much this. I knew this as I looked into why ppl were saying Sora would be impossible to come to Smash, yes he originates from video game unlike Goku (but even he has hurdles similar or harder than Sora anyways) but he is original character not FF tho made by the developer, it is conjunction with Disney why Sora was made as the intermediary between Disney IP and FF IP. At first Disney didn't like that when though to work to together first for Kingdom Hearts but they compromised and here we are with Sora today and Disney first and foremost.

 

I wasn't expecting to see Donald or Goofy in Smash because of that too, really was shocked to see the only Disney thing was Mickey's keychain. That honestly is the most expensive thing Nintendo had to negotiate, lol. Also, I don't say this spite ppl who are not fans of KH but Sora is not wholly defined by Donald and Goofy, so outside of what I knew they wouldn't be in, I know that Sora can stand on his own in Smash. Don't get me wrong, all see the camaraderie Donald, Goofy and Sora have and that was what probably most ppl miss but it is not integral to Sora as individual and what he means to both Square Enix and Disney not one or the other.

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