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Interesting... RIP Scorpion or anyone MK for Smash I guess unless this ever changes. I mean how would Sakurai promote it to his home audience? Tell them to import the games like some of them already do? lol

 

Now that Smash has Tekken, it puts into perspective that we've really narrowed down iconic fighting game franchises. Shame that MK will probably remain an exception but oh well. Mainly wanted Scorpion so that him vs Ryu in an official game could become a reality. Moveset wise he can be perfectly toned down to work, but guess it wasn't meant to be.

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Huh, I forget how while back that I knew that MK11 wasn't released in Japan.

 

What I didn't know is that since MK4, Japan have not gotten any title beyond that one.

 

Interesting, as even tho Sakurai does his best to cater to fans of all nation when comes to fighters coming to Ultimate he will always think of the Japanese audience; first and foremost, like Nintendo.

 

As much as I love the MK franchise, I haven't played all the game too much. Got back when they reboot for 9 but I didn't have high hopes Scorpion making it, like Doom Guy, just too much violence. Yes we have some violent or risque characters in Smash but the way they introduce them in without that were tasteful. To tone down either Scorpion or Doom Guy, wouldn't honor their franchise, is my belief and I think Sakurai thinks so too.

 

That and for some reason, I don't have much expectations, that Scorpion as fighter will move alright in Smash. But then again we were proven wrong with Terry and soon Kazuya will be another that will break hard fighter game mold.

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Updated tier list:

 

https://i.imgur.com/byKuQI0.jpeg

 

Changes from previous version:


 

Spoiler

 

*Kazuya has a son.

*It's basically canon that Drivers and Blades fuck, and given the ending of Xenoblade 2, a Rex/Pyra/Mytrha threesome is practically guaranteed (with or without Nia).

*Sonic was originally "Canonically" due to having kids in one of the comics, but then I remembered that said comic got erased from existence due to some legal fuckery regarding Ken Penders. In-game, Sonic does not show romantic interest at all.
*I had originally confused Terry's personality with Ryu's; "too obsessed with training to fuck". Upon further research, noted that Blue Mary is his girlfriend.

*Being unfamiliar with Minecraft, I originally put Steve under "Probably doesn't" just to be safe. However, I then did some research and discovered that all four skins are capable of breeding.

*On the subject of alternate skins, only the DQ3 and 4 Heroes are confirmed to have descendants. The other two can optionally get married.

*Alph has spent countless months traveling on a spaceship with only two other passengers for company. Who knows what poor Brittany has been subjected to...

*Why are Simon and Richter in separate tiers? Because Simon is the only one with a confirmed grandson, Juste. While Richter canonically has a love interest in Annette, Order of Ecclesia establishes that there is an entire village of Belmont descendants in the 1800s, only a few years after Symphony of the Night. Thus, any of the Wygol Villagers could potentially be the ancestor of Julius, while Richter is left unconfirmed.

*Wii Fit Trainer bumped up to "more than likely" due to all the number of results one can get from searching "yoga pants" on Pornhub.

*Villager bumped up to "optionally" via creative use of the pattern editors in New Horizons and certain emotes.

*Inklings bumped up to "more than likely" due to in-game lore mentioning popular date spots.

*Little Mac is in Stork Tier because Mario is the ref and Donkey Kong is the secret boss.

*Duck Hunt is under "probably doesn't" because most hunting dogs are neutered. Can't say anything about the duck, though.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, DLurkster said:

@Tyranogre: I know Dark Pit based on the last fuck tier list probably doesn't fuck but I will put this out there; if Dark Pit can't read like Pit, then I will concede that like Pit, Dark Pit probably doesn't fuck.

 

I just can't see a guy who is like the opposite of angelboy not fucking somewhere.

 

Palutena is a Greek Goddess, and while those people are notorious for all the wild orgies they frequently have, we don't know if Palu herself has any illegitimate children as concrete proof of participating in said orgies.

 

Pit is an angel. While my knowledge of the Bible is rather limited, I don't know whether angels aren't allowed to fuck, or if they just choose not to because they're too busy helping God run the universe. And that's not even getting into the fact the entire Kid Icarus franchise is the result of a Japanese company attempting to combine Greek and Christian mythology into a single setting.

 

Come to think of it, do these guys count as Sephiroth reproducing asexually?

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14 minutes ago, Tyranogre said:

 

Palutena is a Greek Goddess, and while those people are notorious for all the wild orgies they frequently have, we don't know if Palu herself has any illegitimate children as concrete proof of participating in said orgies.

 

Pit is an angel. While my knowledge of the Bible is rather limited, I don't know whether angels aren't allowed to fuck, or if they just choose not to because they're too busy helping God run the universe. And that's not even getting into the fact the entire Kid Icarus franchise is the result of a Japanese company attempting to combine Greek and Christian mythology into a single setting.

 

Come to think of it, do these guys count as Sephiroth reproducing asexually?

Yeah, with all the different religion backgrounds it is better to be safe who and who procreate. I guess my semi joke of reading doesn't hold up to real faith and regions.

 

And I would say yes to Sephiroth reproducing asexual for those white hair boys.

 

How Sephiroth came to be and why these guys are exist is even creepier than him so yes to make is simple.

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I thought you posted the same YT vid again.

 

I am like 80% that Kazuya will release the same day, if it doesn't it is anyone guess if it is the day after, a week or 2 weeks after Sakurai presents.

 

All of the above has happen and they were random in why as the release of these characters never coincide with Nintendo game release or something. We have a few in July so my hope it just comes the day of but I will be fine if it releases outside that day.

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13 minutes ago, Link, the Hero of Dreams said:

Poor Dante and Shantae got screwed…. somewhat. 
 
And Sakurai confirmed the next one will be the last. 
 
Tension= high. Most of us want Crash Bandicoot. 

 

I like them ok. Heck Shantae looks cute. 🤭

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Looking forward to tomorrow sure Kazuya looks good but I’m looking forward to the music being added a few of my faves made it in, sad about Lloyd, Dante and Shantae being deconfirmed and my god that Min Min amiibo is amazing but holy moly to wait till 2022 for it. That’s quite the wait. Hyper curious who will be the last character but I’m going to roll the dice and say it’ll be a cartoony character.

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Man, no one was spared from the L's this morning. Not even Sakurai was spared with L that by PB's Min Min.

 

First Lloyd, then Dante and then finally Shantae. Like damn Sakurai is killing hopes and dreams this presentation. Like it hurts much more cause Dante is with Capcom, where the hell did he come from with Bandai reps?!?

 

 

I like most amiibo (unless I don't play the character) but something seems off with Min Min's dragon arm. I just don't like the way it looks, everything else is fine. I'm not saying for myself that is the reason it is coming out 2022 but the way I look at it, it took 2 years for fighter pass one characters to all be released. So I see 3 releasing next year and the last 3 of the fighter pass two the next following year. If I recall it took a while after all the Ultimate new character amiibo came out that the DLC ones came out a year after. So I am not surprised after finishing DLC group it will go into next year till we see Min Min.

 

Great presentation with the command inputs, music and stage.

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