Chrom Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 smashbros.com This topic is for all your daily thoughts as we await another entry in the Super Smash Bros. series coming to Nintendo Switch in 2018. Get on board this train and share your hopes and dreams! Quote Link to comment
Stephen 776 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) but will chrom get his chance another day? in all seriousness, what characters do y'all expect being added? Edited March 10, 2018 by KefkaFFVI Quote Link to comment
purple_beard Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 GX has 3 good videos out on some topics: *********************** *********************** With what definitely looked like BotW Link I wonder if we get alt costumes OR in the case of Link, normal Link is gone and is replaced by BotW Link. With the hiding of Mario, do we get a Cappy enabled Mario? I'd still like to have the 3DS stages come over to the Switch version. I think there are all kinds of good choices for retro stages from Smash 64, Melee, and Brawl. I'm going to just start here: Characters via Nintendo itself: Inklings ARMS character... Ice Climbers have to be in just because of no technical limitations... There will be 1 new Pokemon character.... ______________ ? Characters on the 3rd party front: No way Sonic doesn't return. I see no reason Mega Man and Ryu don't return. I see no reason Pac Man doesn't return ..... ...do we get Mrs. Pac Man alt skin or her by herself? Cloud? Bayonetta has no reason not to return. Snake make a comeback? Bomberman? --SBR did very well and Konami is interested in it again. Simon Belmont/Castlevania? --Cv anime... same Konami factor as above.... Banjo? --I mean M$ is loving the Minecraft runs on Switch... maybe a deal can be had to get him in the game. Crash? --Peer on IGN mentioned that after we got that Crash trilogy.... I think he'd fit in with the roster... Quote Link to comment
Tyranogre Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Reposting from the other thread: Take it or leave it: Fighters: *Everyone from Melee and Brawl who got cut from Sm4sh (Ivysaur and Squirtle lose the stamina gimmick and get their own Down-B moves) *Rex *Travis Touchdown *FE Switch Lord *Gen 8 Pokemon with a major role in the anime *Ribbon Girl *Balloon Fighter *A couple of new third-party Ballot winners Assists: *Ninten *Elma (playable if X gets a port) *Azura *Itsuki Aoi (playable if Hashtag Effie gets a port) *Mòrag with Brighid *Any agent of S.T.E.A.M. *One of the Champions from BotW Stage bosses: *Ultra Necrozma *Bana with Giga Rosa *One of the evil Mirages from Hashtag Effie *Great Shugguth *Jasper Batt Jr. *One of the Blight Ganons Quote Link to comment
Surge135 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) My post-trailer character guestimates Spoiler Veterans (45): Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Fox, Pikachu, Kirby, Samus, Jigglypuff, Ness, Luigi, Captain Falcon, Bowser, Peach, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Marth, Falco, Mr. Game & Watch, Ice Climbers, Wario, Diddy Kong, Toon Link, Zero Suit Samus, Pit, King Dedede, Meta Knight, Charizard, Lucario, Ike, Lucas, Olimar, ROB, Sonic, Bowser Jr, Rosalina, Little Mac, Villager, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Corrin, Bayonetta, Mii Fighters, Ryu*, Cloud* Newcomers (8): Inklings, Spring Man, Celica (to replace Robin as the dual Sword/Magic FE rep), Lyn (to replace Lucina), Incineroar (to replace Greninja), Rex (to replace Shulk), Gen-8 Pokemon*, FE Switch protagonist* * denotes DLC Edited March 10, 2018 by Surge135 Quote Link to comment
purple_beard Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Surge135 said: My post-trailer character guestimates Hide contents Veterans (45): Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Fox, Pikachu, Kirby, Samus, Jigglypuff, Ness, Luigi, Captain Falcon, Bowser, Peach, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Marth, Falco, Mr. Game & Watch, Ice Climbers, Wario, Diddy Kong, Toon Link, Zero Suit Samus, Pit, King Dedede, Meta Knight, Charizard, Lucario, Ike, Lucas, Olimar, ROB, Sonic, Bowser Jr, Rosalina, Little Mac, Villager, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Corrin, Bayonetta, Mii Fighters, Ryu*, Cloud* Newcomers (8): Inklings, Spring Man, Celica (to replace Robin as the dual Sword/Magic FE rep), Lyn (to replace Lucina), Incineroar (to replace Greninja), Rex (to replace Shulk), Gen-8 Pokemon*, FE Switch protagonist* * denotes DLC You think Greninja gets dropped? You think Shulk gets dropped? Quote Link to comment
Surge135 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, purple_beard said: You think Greninja gets dropped? You think Shulk gets dropped? Yes, and yes. Gotta make way for some newcomers without inflating the roster to well over 60 or 70. Quote Link to comment
Tyranogre Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Greninja, maybe. But then again, Lucario came back despite not being relevant since the movie, so... Shulk isn’t going anywhere. He’s pretty much Xenoblade’s Marth. Quote Link to comment
Cryptic Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) I'm not sure what Cappy would enable in Mario's moveset other than "throw Cappy, hurt opponent". I'm not sure the "capture" ability could be properly implemented. It's cool to see Champion Link in there, although I'm not sure how it will affect he moveset. Hope he has a Tunic of the Wild alt costume, at least. (Personally, I wasn't super invested in them adding Champion Link; I would have been OK if they stuck with TP Link, or hell even OoT Link.) I do wonder what they'll do with Zelda, Sheik, and Ganondorf, since the latter two don't have BotW designs. My top 10, I guess...I'm treating Ice Climbers as gimmes: Super Mario - Captain Toad Donkey Kong - King K. Rool (Dixie Kong is also acceptable, but K. Rool would be more fun) Balloon Fighter - Balloon Fighter Castlevania - Simon Belmont ARMS - Ribbon Girl (or Min-Min) Golden Sun - Isaac Advance Wars - Sami Sin & Punishment - Saki Xenoblade - Rex & Pyra/Mythra (I'm not sure how this would work exactly) Pokemon - Decidueye (I guess) BONUS: Ridley/Dark Samus/Sylux - I have given up on Metroid getting another rep, especially Ridley, but if it happens, that is cool. Black Shadow - I don't really think F-Zero needs another rep but if Sakurai wants to dump Ganondorf's old moveset on to Black Shadow so that it still exists and he can feel more comfortable revamping Ganondorf entirely, do that. Impa - Impa is the only real new Zelda character I think makes sense (since Vaati is dead and gone). She's kinda weird though, since her only appearance in the Zelda series where she does much is in a spinoff game. I don't really want any BotW Champions because none of them really outshine any of the others to a significant degree. Celica - I would not be entirely offended by Celica replacing Robin. OTHER: Keep the superclones (Dr. Mario, Lucina, Dark Pit). They probably took all of 3 seconds to make anyway, so removing them would be silly. I like Dr. Mario and Dark Pit more than Mario and Pit anyway. I don't know why. 14 minutes ago, Surge135 said: Yes, and yes. Gotta make way for some newcomers without inflating the roster to well over 60 or 70. This is why I wanted a Smash 4 Deluxe port before Smash 5, but here we are. Keep Shulk though, that's crazy talk. Edited March 10, 2018 by Cryptic Quote Link to comment
Surge135 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Crazy talk, maybe. But considering we lost fan favorite Mewtwo in Brawl and he only came back to Smash 4 thanks to DLC, I'm not gonna say Shulk is 100% safe when we have a new Xenoblade protag. Quote Link to comment
purple_beard Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Surge135 said: Yes, and yes. Gotta make way for some newcomers without inflating the roster to well over 60 or 70. I'll take the over on 60 Smash characters overall for the next entry. I don't think Greninja gets dumped though ....they add one new Pokemon. Especially if Lucario stayed and the put in Mewtwo. I can't see them dumping Shulk for another one from the same game....but I admit I am not up on that series characters. ************** Roster cuts as I see it: Lucina gets the axe as she is just a female Marth. Dr. Mario did nothing for me. Does Pokemon Trainer return and thus "one" slot for a multi choice Personally, I liked Duck Hunt, with a few refinements he can be better..... but I could see the axe falling. Personally, I think Nes and Lucas can burn in hell I hate playing them and I hate losing to them. Dark Pit moves to Pit Alt Color.... which sucks...cause while I know they are basically the same, my DP play is always better than regular Pit. Palutena might get the axe but I like her, if they rework her move set. Edited March 10, 2018 by purple_beard Quote Link to comment
purple_beard Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, Surge135 said: Crazy talk, maybe. But considering we lost fan favorite Mewtwo in Brawl and he only came back to Smash 4 thanks to DLC, I'm not gonna say Shulk is 100% safe when we have a new Xenoblade protag. I still found it hard to believe he was a paid DLC character ....Roy too. Especially when both had no stages tied to them AND they were legacy characters from Melee. Quote Link to comment
Stephen 776 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) As said in the direct thread, my expectations is that Smash for Switch is a sequel in the same way Splatoon 2 is a sequel--different enough to be marketed as a sequel but for all practical purposes that Wii U game but on Switch. By extension, I wholly expect the Smash 4 engine still be in use (there's literally no point building a new one), so I reckon all characters from Smash 4 are safe barring things like licensing issues. As for actual character predictions: Inklings obviously, Rex (or Xeno 2 rep otherwise), maybe an ARMS character, Ice Climbers, and a couple of attention-grabbing characters. By attention-grabbing, I mean someone they can show at E3 and maybe close to launch that get everyone talking about the game: think Cloud-tier announcements. Edited March 10, 2018 by KefkaFFVI Quote Link to comment
purple_beard Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, KefkaFFVI said: . By attention-grabbing, I mean someone they can show at E3 and maybe close to launch that get everyone talking about the game: think Cloud-tier announcements. Who would be in Cloud's tier though? I mean THE STAR, of THE GAME, that took away your lead in the video game industry post SNES! Not too many characters have that kind of leverage. IMO, there are only two possibles out there.... Banjo and Kazooie but only based on the Rare tie in to Nintendo at that time could this even be possible. Crash Bandicoot would be another as he was basically a PS1 mascot character akin to Mario and Nintendo. Now, if you follow my train of thought, I had proposed Bonk as a excellent choice. He was the mascot character of the TG16. A move set based off of his moves would definitely be unique in Smash. I mean, no one uses head butts as their chief tactic. Also, you could throw in that rage mode. And if they got slick, you would have something from his Air Zonk alternate personality. Quote Link to comment
Marxforever Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 It goes without saying, I want all of the limitations imposed by the simultaneous release on the 3DS lifted, and that includes bringing back the Ice Climbers and Transformations. I want Zelda to be able to transform into Sheik again, Samus into her Zero Suit, Charizard to be able to switch to Squirtle, etc. I know they have Down-B moves, I don't care. Replace their less interesting ones, or make their Transformations one of their taunts. Hell, Pokemon Trainer could come back (with his new Sun and Moon look even) and you could assign the other two Pokemon to the left and right taunts so you can switch to who you want immediately. As for my more outlandish hopes? Got my fingers crossed for a new adventure mode. Quote Link to comment
Edie Napier Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Y'all motherfuckers are crazy, I learned my lesson after shitposting on that utter hellscape the Smash boards for over a decade. Expecting anything specific out of these games is pointless because Sakurai/Japan in general operate on different expectations than the reclusive forumgoers. Just enjoy the ride and take what you can get. purple_beard, Ridley Prime, DLurkster and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
Link, the Hero of Dreams Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) I think the most important part for me is the music. 2014 has been a long time for more games, more music. Anything in the new Kirby game coming up. A medley of BOTW music, since most of it is atmospheric. The Acting God- Praetor Amathus from Xenoblade 2 After Despair And Hope from Xenoblade 2 Ancient Poni Path from Pokemon Sun and Moon Andross's Trap from Star Fox 0 Aqua Road from Sonic Forces Awakening from Xenoblade 2 Battle Royal Dome from Pokemon Sun and Moon Battle with the Spirit of Self from Kirby Planet Robobot Battle! Elite Four from Pokemon Sun and Moon Battle! Team Rocket Rainbow Boss Giovanni from Pokemon UltraSun and UltraMoon Battle! Team Skull Boss Guzma from Pokemon Sun and Moon Battle! Wild Pokemon from Pokemon UltraSun and UltraMoon Battle!! from Xenoblade 2 Beanbean Kingdom from M&L: Superstar Saga Boss Battle from M&L: Superstar Saga Bountiful Star from Kirby Planet Robobot Bowser Battle 1 from Super Mario Odyssey Bowser's Castle 2 from Super Mario Odyssey Bowser's Minions Bossanova from Bowser's Minions Break Free (Lead The Way) from Super Mario Odyssey Bringer of Chaos! Ultimate (Zeke Battle) from Xenoblade 2 Cap Kingdom (Bonneton) from Super Mario Odyssey Cascade Kingdom (8-Bit) from Super Mario Odyssey Clashing Blades from Xenoblade 2 Climatic Duel! from Super Mario Odyssey Company! from Kirby Planet Robobot Counterattack from Xenoblade 2 Danger on the Dance Floor from Sonic Mania Drifting Soul from Xenoblade 2 Eggman Boss Theme 1 from Sonic Mania Exploration from Xenoblade 2 Festival Plaza (Night) Final Boss Phase 1 (Bowser and Paper Bowser) from M&L: Paper Jam Final Boss Theme from Sonic Mania Fist Bump from Sonic Forces Fossil Falls- Dinosaur (Cascade Kingdom) from Super Mario Odyssey Gormott and its night version from Xenoblade 2 Haltmann Works Company HQ from Kirby Planet Robobot Hard Boiled Heavies Mischief from Sonic Mania Hau'Oli City (Day) from Pokemon Sun and Moon Heart of Steel from Kirby Planet Robobot Incoming! from Xenoblade 2 Island Festival from Pokemon UltraSun and Pokemon UltraMoon Jump Up, Superstar! from Super Mario Odyssey Lobby from Splatoon Lovely Yellow Va-Va-Vrooms from Kirby Planet Robobot Madame Broode Battle from Super Mario Odyssey Mahalo Trail from Pokemon Sun and Moon Mirage Saloon Zone Act 2 from Sonic Mania Mixed-Up Scramble from M&L: Paper Jam Monster Surprised You from Xenoblade 2 Monumental Crisis from Star Fox 0 Mor Ardain and its night version from Xenoblade 2 Mount Volbono- Town (Luncheon Kingdom) from Super Mario Odyssey New Donk City songs/medley from Super Mario Odyssey Oho Oasis from M&L: Superstar Saga Ophion from Xenoblade 2 P-R-O-G-R-A-M from Kirby Planet Robobot Pikachu Valley from Pokemon UltraSun and UltraMoon Po Town from Pokemon Sun and Moon Pokemon League from Pokemon Sun and Moon Press Garden Zone Act 2 from Sonic Mania Puyo Puyo- Chemical Plant Zone Boss from Sonic Mania Race from Super Mario Odyssey Re_ Green Greens from Kirby Planet Robobot Route 1 from Pokemon Sun and Moon Route 4 from Pokemon Sun and Moon Run, Jump, Throw! Medley from Super Mario Odyssey Sector Omega from Star Fox 0 Shiveria- Town (Snow Kingdom) from Super Mario Odyssey Soul 0 System from Kirby Planet Robobot Splattack! from Splatoon Squid Sisters Songs Medley from Splatoon Star Wolf from Star Fox 0 Still, Move Forward! from Xenoblade 2 Studiopolis Zone Act 1 from Sonic Mania Theme of the Hard-Boiled Heavies from Sonic Mania Titanic Monarch Zone from Sonic Mania Toad Hunt from M&L: Paper Jam Tostarena- Jaxi from Super Mario Odyssey True Final Boss Theme from Sonic Mania Ultra Space from Pokemon Sun and Moon Vast Poni Canyon from Pokemon Sun and Moon Venom from Star Fox 0 Venturing into the Mechanised World from Kirby Planet Robobot Verdant Cavern from Pokemon Sun and Moon Steam Gardens (Wooded Kingdom) from Super Mario Odyssey You Will Recall Our Names from Xenoblade 2 More to come later! Just a little... sleepy. Edited March 10, 2018 by XLW Kezay 1 Quote Link to comment
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Cryptic Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Surge135 said: Crazy talk, maybe. But considering we lost fan favorite Mewtwo in Brawl and he only came back to Smash 4 thanks to DLC, I'm not gonna say Shulk is 100% safe when we have a new Xenoblade protag. If I had to "predict" which characters would be cut, I would go with: Mii Fighters (because fuck them. They're three non-characters who are a waste of time.) Bowser Jr. Mewtwo (farewell, sweet prince) Little Mac (my understanding is that Japan was meh on his inclusion / didn't even know who he was) Wii Fit Trainer (I don't know what the future of this series is. I don't know if Nintendo would come out with a fitness game for Switch, or what, since at the moment Wii peripherals aren't compatible with Switch.) Roy (Another fave of mine. Honestly it's hard for me to cut any of the FE characters because, based on the heroes ballot, they are all pretty popular. Ike, Roy, and Lucina all won the first year ballot. irrc Marth would have been higher on the first-year and top 2 in the second-year ballot if they combined his FE1 and FE3 votes. As far as Robin and Corrin, they are less popular, but have more unique movesets and are newer.) This doesn't include potential third-party cuts, or cutting clones because I think that is not worth it anyway. Also, I want all of these characters to return, except Mii Fighters. I also don't care if custom moves return, so if those are cut so 1 actual character can live, great, do that. The only character who would suffer is Palutena. @Purple_beard Sakurai isn't going to cut Palutena. There's no way. Quote Link to comment
purple_beard Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cryptic said: If I had to "predict" which characters would be cut, I would go with: Mii Fighters (because fuck them. They're three non-characters who are a waste of time.) Bowser Jr. Mewtwo (farewell, sweet prince) Little Mac (my understanding is that Japan was meh on his inclusion / didn't even know who he was) Wii Fit Trainer (I don't know what the future of this series is. I don't know if Nintendo would come out with a fitness game for Switch, or what, since at the moment Wii peripherals aren't compatible with Switch.) Roy (Another fave of mine. Honestly it's hard for me to cut any of the FE characters because, based on the heroes ballot, they are all pretty popular. Ike, Roy, and Lucina all won the first year ballot. irrc Marth would have been higher on the first-year and top 2 in the second-year ballot if they combined his FE1 and FE3 votes. As far as Robin and Corrin, they are less popular, but have more unique movesets and are newer.) This doesn't include potential third-party cuts, or cutting clones because I think that is not worth it anyway. Also, I want all of these characters to return, except Mii Fighters. I also don't care if custom moves return, so if those are cut so 1 actual character can live, great, do that. The only character who would suffer is Palutena. @Purple_beard Sakurai isn't going to cut Palutena. There's no way. Bowser Jr and Mewtwo will stay. Lil Mac, because he is a boxer, and thus a fighter... I can't see him being gone. Wii Fit Trainer ...due to no real WiiFit on WiiU and no real WiiFit coming to Switch I'd agree that she could be up for the axe. I did think they pulled of a decent move set for her though. Mii Fighters were a good idea but ever since the Wii it seems like Nintendo wants to dump them.... yeah... the hangman will claim them too. ***************** ***************** The elephant in the room: Amiibo line? Obviously Nintendo is still doing the figures.... However the roster from the last game is complete AND the Splatoon characters already have 3 sets to their name. I doubt they do the same poses again for those that stay. I doubt they do alt colors.... Quote Link to comment
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