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  1. Not sure how much timeline discussion has gone on here in terms of where BotW fits in and I'm not looking to sift through a 60+ page thread to find out, so I'mma just make a new thread and see what we've come up with so far. Not that anyone ever really wants to discuss the Zelda timeline, anyway, but these thoughts popped into my head the other day and I'm getting them out there somehow. SPOILERS FOR MOST OF THE GAME AHEAD. If you haven't done too much of the story stuff in BotW, then you might want to turn back now. I feel it's obvious that this game takes place in the adult timeline. The largest pieces of evidence pointing towards this are 1) the existence of the Koroks (near identical to their tWW appearance) and the Rito, and 2) the name of the Rito divine beast, Vah Medoh, named after Medli, which couldn't happen in a timeline without Medli. The only other thing that would make sense to me is if all the timelines somehow merged, which is something I don't want to think about because thinking about the Zelda timeline in general is torture enough. While I'm confident in this placement, there are some holes that need filling and I have some questions and possible explanations. Keep in mind all of my questions are based on the assumption that this game takes place in the adult timeline. If you disagree, that's another matter open for discussion. 1) New Hyrule or Old Hyrule? I haven't looked at the geography too closely just yet. I also haven't played Spirit Tracks since its release. Evidence to me points toward Old Hyrule, simply because of the existence of the Deku Tree, which would mean the Koroks succeeded in reuniting the islands (or the sea somehow lowered to allow Hyrule to rise again). This raises some other questions, though: what happened to New Hyrule? Did everyone migrate back? If so, what reason did they have? Or is New Hyrule still running independently while a new kingdom arises in the new land mass over the Great Sea? Alternatively, there's a chance that the Koroks gave up hope on reuniting the islands and somehow moved the Deku Tree to New Hyrule. Perhaps, the Goddesses acknowledged the new continent, gave it their blessing, and moved the Deku Tree and the Koroks to the new land? 2) If Rito evolved from Zora, then why are there still Zora?! Low key made this entire thread just for this joke. All different races appear in BotW, including Hylians, Gorons, Zora, Rito, Koroks, Gerudo, and Sheikah. Hylians, Gorons, Rito, and Koroks all appeared in tWW, so their appearance makes sense. The existence of the Zora, Sheikah, and Gerudo raise questions because it was established that the Goddesses transformed all the Zora into Rito preceding the Great Flood; Impa was established to be the last of the Sheikah in OoT, so we can assume they went extinct after she became a Sage; and I guess it's just kinda assumed that the Gerudo integrated with Hylians and became regular people. Starting with Zora, I have a theory that explains not only their inclusion, but also their difference in appearance from other Zora tribes: I think these Zora evolved from sharks. You may notice that, in Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, and even that one sage in Wind Waker, they're always fish people with head tails that look like just an extra piece of meat on the backs of their heads, but in Breath of the Wild, the Zora look like fish people with shark hats. I think this race of Zora might be entirely unrelated to previous Zora races. Perhaps, there were parasites that attached themselves to sharks, took over their functions, and, over time, grew a humanoid body with limbs, but still wearing the sharks as hats? Sheikah and Gerudo might be possible to explain if it turned out that this game takes place in Old Hyrule and the Goddesses decided to un-flood the old kingdom. In fact, this would be the only way to make sense of these extinct races becoming thriving communities with old traditions and knowledge of the ancient practices of these races. It would also involve some rather Nazi-esque genetic selection, trying to get the pale-skin/white-hair look of the Sheikah and the dark-skin/red-hair/female-only Gerudo aesthetic to be consistent with ancient practices. Thinking back, the only way for any of the races to have knowledge of their ancient counterparts (including the knowledge that led to the naming of the Divine Beasts, and especially Urbosa's knowledge of Ganon's original background as a Gerudo) would be for this game to take place in Old Hyrule and the Goddesses decide to un-flood the old kingdom with enough surviving records to restore certain histories and traditions. Again, just a rationalization for my own personal theory. 3) When did the original Calamity happen? Ten thousand years is a long time. Hundreds of years passed between the Great Flood and tWW, and during that time, all of OoT's history vanished. Stories from the Medieval Era are considered legends to us, and some of them are less than 1,000 years old. It's reasonable to assume that everything between OoT and tWW can happen within a span of 2,000 years, and Spirit Tracks is confirmed to take place 100 years after tWW, so that's 2,100 years accounted for. I thought there was a specific amount of time between the events of Skyward Sword's past and present parts, but my best effort is only bringing up, "thousands of years." I always thought it was 4,000, so I'll go with that for now. After that, we have Minish Cap and Four Swords between SS and OoT. I feel it's not too unreasonable to assume 1,000 years here. At that, we've accounted for 7,100 years, which means it's possible that the original Calamity coincides with the conflict that sets up Skyward Sword. Demise could have easily become Ganon over millennia of passing down the legend and the details about the Guardians could have emerged with enough research over the 1,000+ years I'm picturing between ST and BotW. Alternatively, going back to my first question, it's possible that those in New Hyrule had to immigrate back to Old Hyrule for some reason and brought their knowledge of train technology with them to build all the Guardians and stuff, and this game takes place 10,000 years after that, but I like the idea that most of the games—or all of them if the merging timelines theory makes any sense—happen between BotW's backstory and events. Thoughts about any of this? Have I missed out on any official news that throws any or all this out the window? Exactly how stupid is my theory? How much do you dislike talking about the Zelda timeline? Do you feel just as tortured from reading this as I did from thinking this?
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