One of my first posts on this website told you to enjoy the time you have left here as a community. I meant it. Nsider 2 might have, at one time or another, had a chance of becoming a a larger forum than it eventually became. That chance, however, was long, long past being a possibility before Koduck and YR thought about splitting from CrowdGather. Hell, let’s be honest. Even way back in 2007, the writing was on the wall for forums. Only the largest forums were going to survive as anything more than serving increasingly tiny communities. That’s just fine. Discourse on the internet has always been ephemeral in nature, and in this era of social media and services like Discord, why bother with forums?
This was compounded by the increasingly niche nature of this community. Allow this to serve as your reminder that Nsider was shut down a decade ago, children. The primary audience of Nsider 2 and Ninfora has always been stragglers from that community, with a smaller number of people added on along the way. Naturally, that audience shrunk and shrunk over the years, and you’re still bleeding users without replacing them. Those users, over time, grew up from being stupid children, got actual responsibilities, and slowly drifted away from the stupid Nintendo forums they used to post on. That is to say, this was all an inevitability anyway, so you really shouldn’t be surprised that your forum is becoming a ghost town. If you still want to talk to anybody here in the future, make sure you can do it elsewhere.
As a sidenote, I really shouldn’t comment on clubs, but I’ll just say that keeping them this long was a stupid idea. Neat concept, but overall destructive to what’s left of this community considering you can barely keep the chat thread running.
But hey, let’s address some points from the thread. This couldn’t possibly be a bad idea.
VIDEO GAMES BIGGEST ROAD BLOCK TO BECOMING A “RESPECTED ART FORM” ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PLAY THEM:
Let’s just acknowledge the baggage first. Yes, I was one of those super abrasive assholes that talked about politics on this forum. Did I help push people off this forum? Yeah, sure. I don’t regret it. They either expressed opinions that I could not abide being openly shared in a community I was a part of, or they lost an argument, felt they got bullied by the Belgian Internet Terrorists, and ran. Either way, not sorry.
By the way, it certainly was not “half the forum”.
The prevailing wisdom on the internet was (and still is) to quarantine political discussion away, so that it can be ignored by those that don’t want to engage. Last year’s election simply popped even the most durable bubble and made politics something that could no longer be ignored. Shit got polarized, to put it mildly. Needless to say, that wisdom is misguided. Politics are something that govern your everyday life. Even beyond your pathetic existence, the GOP deciding to pursue stripping healthcare from millions, well, affects millions of other people. These discussions are extremely important, massively more important than mere video games, and ignoring them leads to apathy or, yes, horrid ways of thinking. Just take a gander at how a sizable group of gamers sympathize with actual (literal) neo-nazis. Go read up and understand what Nazism entails. I’ll wait.
Speaking of, nazis. I’ll totally agree with the point that, if you are more concerned with being called a nazi instead of why you’re being called a nazi, you need to do some deep reflection. Protip: You’re either espousing similar talking points to those that neo-nazis typically do, you’re associating with neo-nazis, or you just said some seriously dangerous shit. Try to avoid doing that in the future, and you won’t be called a nazi. Promise.
Anywho. This is a video game forum, however, so shouldn’t we just talk about video games? Time to give you the spiel again. Video games are an artform. Art is, inherently, political, even in as medium as unworthy as video games. It is a reflection of the person creating it. You can kick and scream about how you can divorce the art from the artist all you want, but that is an impossibility. Art is not made in a vacuum, and Gears for Breakfast knowingly deciding to keep a neo-nazi of a voice actor in their game colours the experience of playing it, especially those that neo-nazis want to see wiped from the gene pool. You cannot avoid politics. Hell, that new nazi killing game also came out and was using the current political climate to its full marketing advantage. It’s not a matter of ‘keeping politics out of video games’ so much as recognizing that they were always there. Say it with me now: The Mario and Zelda series both make use of problematic tropes, and there is nothing wrong with enjoying them as long as we acknowledge their problems. That this is even a contentious point to make reveals just how fucked up the gaming community is, to be frank.
Finally, I’ll admit that we didn’t always use the politics thread. The horror. Once again, I am not sorry that you had to see a troll that was always arguing in bad faith, by the way, tell a black woman that she had nothing to fear from his southern heritage. Such discussions, are, once more, ephemeral. Picking them up and moving to another thread is pointless for any other reason than the peanut gallery not wanting to see it. Then again, you didn’t need to see it. If you’re not interested in a discussion, you are not obligated to take part. Go read a book for a while and it’ll probably burn out by the time you get back. Or just post your Penis shitpost anyway, it’s not like anyone reads them. Don’t be childish and try to drown out discussion like certain members did.
A STORY ABOUT NEOGAF:
I was already on my way out of NeoGAF before the implosion, but let’s make this clear. The self-destruction of NeoGAF was largely due to Evilore (The owner of NeoGAF, if you’re unaware) handling himself extremely poorly. His past was never clean, as he had posted and even admitted to being a sexual predator before. He had, just the week before, posted a rant against believing victims of sexual assault, that it was an untenable position. I wonder why. How he handled the situation with amir0x was also horrible, by the way.
This accusation came from an ex of his doing a #metoo post, later deleted because it became something much larger than she wanted. I won’t repeat the accusation, but let’s just say that an adult really should know better than to do what he did. The post circulated in the less than reputable parts of the internet and eventually hit NeoGAF proper. Evilore’s past is why he didn’t get a single shred of the benefit of the doubt from most of the community. Then he fucked up even harder. What does Evilore do with a forum that’s calling for his head? What does he tell his moderators?
He tells the mods basically what he said in the later statement. That everything was false and harping on about how she was deranged and couldn’t be trusted. The mods and admins all resign, and NeoGAF is left in a lawless state. Evilore uses Modbot to make an extremely weak promise of a statement coming soon. Meanwhile, the internet takes notice, the servers started to buckle, and Evilore takes the site down.
Three or so days later, Evilore finally comes out of hiding and brings NeoGAF back online with a frankly insulting statement. He blamed the downfall of the forum on the negative atmosphere created by political discussion, and vows to bring NeoGAF back to a gaming focus by banning political discussion. Thus killing the heart and soul of NeoGAF, even without the mass exodus. On an interesting note, if you were there to brave the account suicides that were posting goatse immediately after it came back online, you would have noticed how quickly the progressive masks of those left fell off. Funny, that.
Anyway, that is an extremely lengthy way to say that the downfall of NeoGAF is in no way similar to what’s happening here. Unless YR or Koduck happen to be sexual predators, but I rather doubt that. What you're facing is simply the by-product of time.
This is already way longer than I intended, so I’ll stop there.
Catch you cool cats on the flip side.